From: "Gonzalo Olivan Gonzalvo" <g.olivan@comz.org>
To: "AdoptMed \(E-mail\)" <adoptmed@u.washington.edu>
References: <178661845.20041025233059@online.ru>
Subject: Re: [Adoptmed] Spanish parents
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:40:17 +0200
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Dear listmates:

Although Spain is a catholic country, the great majority of the population
"does not believe that everything is perfect because they get everything
from God".
The Spanish adoptive parents are not "sisters of the charity".
The Spanish parents have knowledge of which most of the institutionalized
children in the Russian orphanages are not completely healthy.
For that reason, the Spanish parents accept to adopt sick children, but
children with to short or half term recoverable illnesses.
Nevertheless, 99.9% of the Spanish parents do not accept to adopt disabled
children or with serious and non-recoverable diseases, specially of
neurosensorial type.
In fact, the refusal of referrals is high.
They know that to adopt a disabled or seriously sick child it is not
necessary to travel to Russia. These children are available to adopt in
Spain.
Another subject is that some Spanish parents who travel to Russia to adopt,
are not advised by expert pediatricians in international adoption. If we add
the scanty and incomplete medical information that the staff of some
orphanages offers, it is possible that children with serious diseases (FAS,
etc.) have been adopted without the parents really know the magnitude of the
disease.

Best regards,

G. Oliván-Gonzalvo
Pediatrics and International Adoption Center
Zaragoza, Spain

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "togoev" <togo@online.ru>
To: <adoptmed@u.washington.edu>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:30 PM
Subject: [Adoptmed] Spanish parents


> Hallo, listmates!
> I have some philosophical observation. During almost 5 years of
> preadoption consulattions I consulted parents from USA, Ireland,
> Germany and Austria. But I have consulted a spanish couple only once.
> They were very educated and smart people- the mother was a former
> secretary of Alber Solano- General Secretary of EU, father was a
> well-known in Spain TV star, as I was told. The only case! the same, I
> never heard about consultations of children for Soanish parents from
> my colleagues as well- I  know many of those, who travel to
> orphanages with couples. A couple of times, when I didn't recommend
> adoption for some reasons, agencies and orphanage stuff told me that
> when Spanish people come, they will "adopt everybody, including this
> sick child". And they really do so.
> may be, Spain is a catholic country and people believe that everything
> is perfecr becaise they get everything from God? Like:" I came to
> Russia, here is my referral, he is sick, but this is a gift of God, so
> I love him, I want to take care of him!"
> Can anybody share his thoughts about this issue?
>
> Oleg Togoyev
> American Clinic, Moscow, Russia
>
>
>
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  togoev                          mailto:togo@online.ru
>
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